{"id":887,"date":"2014-03-10T23:02:41","date_gmt":"2014-03-10T22:02:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=887"},"modified":"2020-05-08T12:16:19","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T10:16:19","slug":"pdf-x4-adatok-akik-kiszamitjak-az-indesign-vagy-a-rip","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/pdf-x4-adatok-akik-kiszamitjak-az-indesign-vagy-a-rip\/","title":{"rendered":"PDF X\/4 adatok - ki v\u00e9gzi a matematik\u00e1t? Az InDesign vagy a RIP?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"887\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 votes)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"PDF X\\\/4 Daten &ndash;&nbsp;wer rechnet? 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A legelterjedtebb nyomdai elj\u00e1r\u00e1snak felel meg: Offszetnyomtat\u00e1s matt vagy f\u00e9nyes k\u00e9pnyom\u00f3pap\u00edrra.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ISOCoatedV2<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/bizonyitek\/\" target=\"_self\" title='A &quot;bizony\u00edt\u00e1s&quot; azt jelenti, hogy bizonylatot \u00e1ll\u00edtanak el\u0151 vagy k\u00e9sz\u00edttetnek. &quot;A bros\u00far\u00e1t m\u00e9g le kell igaz\u00edttatnom&quot; - ez a &quot;proof&quot; sz\u00f3 tipikus megfogalmaz\u00e1sa. A proofol\u00e1s teh\u00e1t azt jelenti, hogy a hat\u00e1lyos ISO 12647-7 szabv\u00e1nynak megfelel\u0151en sz\u00ednes \u00e9s jogilag k\u00f6telez\u0151 erej\u0171 proofot k\u00e9sz\u00edttet\u00fcnk.' class=\"encyclopedia\">bizony\u00edt\u00e9k<\/a> kellene. A form\u00e1tum PDFX-4 form\u00e1tumban k\u00e9sz\u00fclt, meg tudtuk nyitni a f\u00e1jlt, el\u0151v\u00e1gtuk, \u00e9s Acr-ba is konvert\u00e1ltuk.<a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/oba\/\" target=\"_self\" title='Az OBA az &quot;Optical Brightning Agents&quot; vagy &quot;Optical Brightners&quot; r\u00f6vid\u00edt\u00e9se.' class=\"encyclopedia\">oba<\/a>t lehet megjelen\u00edteni. A <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/bizonyitek-2\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"A contract proof egy ISO 12647-7 tan\u00fas\u00edtv\u00e1nnyal rendelkez\u0151, a grafikai ipar sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra k\u00e9sz\u00fclt vizsg\u00e1l\u00f3eszk\u00f6z. A pr\u00f3banyomat az ISO-szabv\u00e1ny sz\u0171k t\u0171r\u00e9shat\u00e1rain bel\u00fcl sz\u00edn- \u00e9s jogilag k\u00f6telez\u0151 m\u00f3don szimul\u00e1lja az ofszet- vagy m\u00e9lynyom\u00f3g\u00e9pek sz\u00edness\u00e9g\u00e9t.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Bizony\u00edt\u00e9k<\/a> a  oldalon. <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/tuezes\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"A Fiery az EFI - Electronics for Imaging egyik term\u00e9kcsal\u00e1dja. M\u00edg kor\u00e1bban a Fiery n\u00e9v csak a nyomtat\u00f3khoz val\u00f3 vez\u00e9rl\u0151kr\u0151l volt ismert, ma m\u00e1r a proofing \u00e9s a gy\u00e1rt\u00e1si rendszereket is Fiery n\u00e9ven \u00e1rulj\u00e1k.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">T\u00fczes<\/a> XF 5.2, azonban a f\u00e1jl csak akkor ny\u00edlt meg, ha egy <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/rip\/\" target=\"_self\" title='A RIP egy raszteres k\u00e9pfeldolgoz\u00f3, azaz &quot;raszteres k\u00e9pfeldolgoz\u00f3&quot;. Feldolgozza a PDF- vagy Postscript-adatokat, \u00e9s elk\u00fcldi a csatlakoztatott k\u00e9pkiad\u00f3 vagy proofnyomtat\u00f3 sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra.' class=\"encyclopedia\">RIP<\/a>-id\u0151 t\u00f6bb mint 3 \u00f3ra.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Screen-Recorded2014-03-01-23_44_59.mov\">Adobe PDF X4 k\u00e9perny\u0151 kimenete Acrobat Professional programban<\/a><\/p>\n<p>A k\u00e9perny\u0151 elrendez\u00e9s\u00e9t egy modern, n\u00e9gy processzormaggal \u00e9s a leg\u00fajabb Acrobat Pro verzi\u00f3val rendelkez\u0151 Macbook Pro-n r\u00f6gz\u00edtett\u00fck, hogy szeml\u00e9ltess\u00fck a hardverrel \u00e9s \u00edgy a sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00e1si teljes\u00edtm\u00e9nnyel szemben t\u00e1masztott hatalmas k\u00f6vetelm\u00e9nyeket.<\/p>\n<p>Az, hogy a RIP-id\u0151 el\u00e9g hossz\u00fa lesz, a k\u00e9perny\u0151 be\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00e1s\u00e1val egy\u00e9rtelm\u0171 volt, de h\u00e1rom \u00f3ra csak egy <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/hasznalja-a-cimet\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"A panelek sz\u00e1ma azt jelzi, hogy h\u00e1ny oldal helyezhet\u0151 el (\u00e9s \u00edgy nyomtathat\u00f3 ki) egy nyomtat\u00e1si lapon.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">El\u0151ny<\/a> viszonylag szokatlan volt, k\u00fcl\u00f6n\u00f6sen mivel a fel\u00fclvizsg\u00e1lati id\u0151szakunkban k\u00e9t esetben is el\u0151fordult a <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/adobe-pdf-nyomtatasi-motor\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Az Adobe PDF Print Engine - APPE - az Adobe PDF-f\u00e1jlok feldolgoz\u00e1s\u00e1ra specializ\u00e1l\u00f3dott nyomtat\u00e1si \u00e9s renderel\u00e9si platformja, amely a sz\u00e9les k\u00f6rben haszn\u00e1lt Postscript Level III nyomtat\u00e1si nyelvet \u00e9s a CPSI-t (Configurable PostScript Interpreter) v\u00e1ltja fel. Az Adobe PDF Print Engine a PDF-f\u00e1jlokb\u00f3l \u00e1ll\u00edtja el\u0151 a v\u00e9gleges nyomtat\u00e1si adatokat a lemezkiad\u00f3 vagy a korrekt\u00far\u00e1z\u00f3 rendszerek sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Adobe PDF nyomtat\u00e1si motor<\/a> egyszerre dolgoznak. Egyel\u0151re nem vil\u00e1gos, hogy pontosan mi a hiba a rendk\u00edv\u00fcl magas RIP-id\u0151ben. Mindk\u00e9t <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Az Electronics For Imaging Inc. vagy r\u00f6viden EFI egy amerikai v\u00e1llalat, a vil\u00e1g egyik vezet\u0151 proofing rendszer\u00e9nek, az EFI Colorproof XF-nek, 2013 \u00f3ta Fiery XF-nek a gy\u00e1rt\u00f3ja. Az EFI a nagym\u00e9ret\u0171 nyomtat\u00e1si rendszerek, RIP-ek \u00e9s sz\u00ednkezel\u00e9si megold\u00e1sok, p\u00e9ld\u00e1ul proofing megold\u00e1sok sz\u00e1ll\u00edt\u00f3ja.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">EFI<\/a> mint a Fiery RIPS gy\u00e1rt\u00f3ja \u00e9s az Adobe mint a PDF Print Engine (APPE) gy\u00e1rt\u00f3ja megkapta az adatokat, a f\u00e1jl val\u00f3sz\u00edn\u0171leg n\u00e9h\u00e1ny percen bel\u00fcl egy Harlequin RIP-en k\u00e9sz\u00fclt el. Az Adobe PDF Print Engine hib\u00e1ja teh\u00e1t szint\u00e9n oka lehet a hossz\u00fa feldolgoz\u00e1si id\u0151nek.<\/p>\n<p>A probl\u00e9ma tipikus. Az olyan alkot\u00f3programokb\u00f3l, mint az InDesign \u00e9s az Illustrator, az X\/4-es f\u00e1jlelemek s\u00edkbeli kisz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00e1sa a nyomd\u00e1ban vagy a pr\u00f3banyomd\u00e1ban tov\u00e1bb\u00edt\u00e1sra ker\u00fcl a RIP-hez.<\/p>\n<p>Ezt az esetet egy n\u00e9gymagos rendszeren, SSD-kkel \u00e9s az Adobe PDF Print Engine k\u00e9t p\u00e9ld\u00e1ny\u00e1val sz\u00e1moltuk ki, \u00e9s h\u00e1rom \u00f3ra 47 perc alatt helyesen adtuk ki. Mivel azonban a v\u00e9gterm\u00e9k bor\u00edt\u00f3j\u00e1t v\u00e1rhat\u00f3an nem Eur\u00f3p\u00e1ban, hanem \u00c1zsi\u00e1ban fogj\u00e1k gy\u00e1rtani, \u00fagy d\u00f6nt\u00f6ttek, hogy a helyi nyomdatechnol\u00f3gi\u00e1kra val\u00f3 tekintettel a Photoshopban cs\u00f6kkentik az \u00f6sszetett grafika m\u00e9ret\u00e9t transzparenci\u00e1kkal, \u00e1rny\u00e9kol\u00f3kkal stb. \u00e9s ezt k\u00f6vet\u0151en \u00e1tl\u00e1tsz\u00f3 PDF-f\u00e1jlk\u00e9nt nyomtatj\u00e1k ki. <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/psd\/\" target=\"_self\" title='A PSD a Fogra &quot;ProcessStandard Digital Printing&quot;, illetve a PSO a &quot;ProcessStandard Offset Printing&quot; r\u00f6vid\u00edt\u00e9se.' class=\"encyclopedia\">PSD<\/a> \u00dajabb d\u00e1tum. Az \u00edgy kapott PDF X\/3 f\u00e1jl n\u00e9h\u00e1ny m\u00e1sodpercen bel\u00fcl \u00e1t lett m\u00e1solva \u00e9s le lett korrekt\u00far\u00e1zva. A sz\u00edneredm\u00e9ny megegyezett az X4-es f\u00e1jl\u00e9val.<\/p>\n<p>A p\u00e9lda azt mutatja, hogy a PDF X4 nem csak egy m\u00f3dos\u00edtott adatform\u00e1tum. A sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00e1si teljes\u00edtm\u00e9nyt \u00e9s a szoftvert is \u00e1thelyezi.<a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/lexikon\/ean\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"EAN = Eur\u00f3pai cikksz\u00e1m. Az EAN-t 2009-ben felv\u00e1ltotta a GTIN = glob\u00e1lis kereskedelmi azonos\u00edt\u00f3 sz\u00e1m.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ean<\/a>az adat l\u00e9trehoz\u00f3j\u00e1t\u00f3l az adatfeldolgoz\u00f3ig vagy a nyomtat\u00f3ig. Ez azonban kisz\u00e1m\u00edthatatlan hat\u00e1sokhoz vezethet, k\u00fcl\u00f6n\u00f6sen \u00f6sszetett grafik\u00e1k eset\u00e9n. B\u00e1r ma m\u00e1r l\u00e9teznek PDF X\/4-k\u00e9pes megold\u00e1sok, mint p\u00e9ld\u00e1ul a Fiery XF 5.2, a h\u00e1rom \u00f3r\u00e1n\u00e1l hosszabb RIP-id\u0151 term\u00e9szetesen nem praktikus.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nemr\u00e9giben kaptunk egy PDF-f\u00e1jlt egy sv\u00e1jci \u00fcgyfel\u00fcnkt\u0151l, amelyet az ISOCoatedV2 szerint kellett lektor\u00e1lnunk. A form\u00e1tum PDFX-4 form\u00e1tumban k\u00e9sz\u00fclt, a f\u00e1jlt meg tudtuk nyitni, el\u0151flightolni \u00e9s Acrobatban is meg tudtuk jelen\u00edteni. A Fiery XF 5.2-ben t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 proofol\u00e1skor azonban a f\u00e1jl csak t\u00f6bb mint 3 \u00f3ra RIP-id\u0151 ut\u00e1n ker\u00fclt kiad\u00e1sra. Adobe PDF X4 k\u00e9perny\u0151kimenet az Acrobat Professionalben A k\u00e9perny\u0151 elrendez\u00e9s\u00e9t egy modern, n\u00e9gy processzormaggal \u00e9s a leg\u00fajabb Acrobat Pro verzi\u00f3val rendelkez\u0151 Macbook Pro sz\u00e1m\u00edt\u00f3g\u00e9pen r\u00f6gz\u00edtett\u00fck, hogy megmutassuk, milyen hatalmas ig\u00e9nybev\u00e9telnek van kit\u00e9ve a hardver, \u00e9s \u00edgy a ... <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"PDF X\/4 adatok - ki v\u00e9gzi a matematik\u00e1t? Az InDesign vagy a RIP?\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/hu\/pdf-x4-adatok-akik-kiszamitjak-az-indesign-vagy-a-rip\/#more-887\" aria-label=\"Read more about PDF X\/4 Daten \u2013\u00a0wer rechnet? 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