{"id":887,"date":"2014-03-10T23:02:41","date_gmt":"2014-03-10T22:02:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=887"},"modified":"2020-05-08T12:16:19","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T10:16:19","slug":"pdf-x4-tiedot-jotka-laskevat-suunnittelu-tai-rip-laskennan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/pdf-x4-tiedot-jotka-laskevat-suunnittelu-tai-rip-laskennan\/","title":{"rendered":"PDF X\/4 -tiedot - kuka laskee? InDesign vai RIP?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"887\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 votes)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"PDF X\\\/4 Daten &ndash;&nbsp;wer rechnet? 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Se edustaa yleisint\u00e4 painomenetelm\u00e4\u00e4: Offset-painatus mattapintaiselle tai kiilt\u00e4v\u00e4lle kuvapainopaperille.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ISOCoatedV2<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/proofen\/\" target=\"_self\" title='&quot;Todistaminen&quot; tarkoittaa todisteen tekemist\u00e4 tai todistuksen teett\u00e4mist\u00e4. &quot;Minun on viel\u00e4 teetett\u00e4v\u00e4 esitteest\u00e4 oikoluku&quot; on tyypillinen muotoilu sanalle &quot;oikoluku&quot;. Proofaus tarkoittaa siis v\u00e4rillisen ja oikeudellisesti sitovan vedoksen teett\u00e4mist\u00e4 nykyisen ISO 12647-7 -standardin mukaisesti.' class=\"encyclopedia\">proofen<\/a> pit\u00e4isi. Muoto oli PDFX-4, voimme avata tiedoston, esivalottaa sen ja muuntaa sen my\u00f6s Acr:ksi.<a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/oba\/\" target=\"_self\" title='OBA on lyhenne sanoista &quot;Optical Brightning Agents&quot; tai &quot;Optical Brightners&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">oba<\/a>t voidaan n\u00e4ytt\u00e4\u00e4. Osoitteessa <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/todiste-2\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Proof (oikein: sopimusproof) on ISO 12647-7 -sertifioitu graafisen alan proof-laite. Proof simuloi offset- tai syv\u00e4painon v\u00e4rillisyytt\u00e4 v\u00e4ris\u00e4vyjen ja oikeudellisesti sitovalla tavalla ISO-standardin kapeiden toleranssien rajoissa.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Todiste<\/a> osoitteessa <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/tulinen\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Fiery on EFI - Electronics for Imaging -yrityksen tuotesarja. Aiemmin nimi Fiery tunnettiin vain tulostimien ohjaimista, mutta nyky\u00e4\u00e4n my\u00f6s proof- ja tuotantoj\u00e4rjestelmi\u00e4 myyd\u00e4\u00e4n Fiery-nimell\u00e4.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Tulinen<\/a> XF 5.2, mutta tiedosto luotiin vasta sen j\u00e4lkeen kun <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/rip\/\" target=\"_self\" title='RIP on rasterikuvaprosessori. Se k\u00e4sittelee PDF- tai Postscript-tietoja ja l\u00e4hett\u00e4\u00e4 ne liitettyihin kuvank\u00e4sittelylaitteisiin tai vedostulostimiin.' class=\"encyclopedia\">RIP<\/a>-aika yli 3 tuntia.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/03\/Screen-Recorded2014-03-01-23_44_59.mov\">Adobe PDF X4 -n\u00e4ytt\u00f6tulostus Acrobat Professionalissa<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Olemme tallentaneet n\u00e4yt\u00f6n asettelun nykyaikaisella Macbook Pro -tietokoneella, jossa on nelj\u00e4 prosessoriydint\u00e4 ja uusin Acrobat Pro -versio, jotta voit n\u00e4hd\u00e4, miten valtavat vaatimukset laitteistolle ja siten laskentateholle asetetaan.<\/p>\n<p>Oli selv\u00e4\u00e4, ett\u00e4 RIP-aika olisi melko pitk\u00e4, kun otetaan huomioon n\u00e4yt\u00f6n asetukset, mutta kolme tuntia, kun k\u00e4yt\u00f6ss\u00e4 on vain yksi <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/kaeytae\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Paneelien lukum\u00e4\u00e4r\u00e4 osoittaa, kuinka monta sivua voidaan sijoittaa (ja siten tulostaa) yhdelle tulostettavalle arkille.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Hy\u00f6ty<\/a> oli suhteellisen ep\u00e4tavallista, varsinkin kun tarkastelua koskevalla tutkimusajanjaksollamme oli kaksi tapausta, joissa <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/adobe-pdf-print-engine\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Adobe PDF Print Engine - APPE - on Adoben tulostus- ja renderointialusta, joka on erikoistunut PDF-tiedostojen k\u00e4sittelyyn ja korvaa laajalti k\u00e4ytetyn Postscript Level III -tulostuskielen ja CPSI:n (Configurable PostScript Interpreter). Adobe PDF Print Engine tuottaa PDF-tiedostoista lopullisen tulostusdatan levysuorittimille tai vedosn\u00e4ytt\u00f6j\u00e4rjestelmille.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Adobe PDF Print Engine<\/a> toimivat samanaikaisesti. Viel\u00e4 ei ole selv\u00e4\u00e4, mist\u00e4 virhe johtuu, kun RIP-aika on eritt\u00e4in pitk\u00e4. Molemmat <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Electronics For Imaging Inc., lyhyesti EFI, on yhdysvaltalainen yritys, joka valmistaa yht\u00e4 maailman johtavista proofausj\u00e4rjestelmist\u00e4: EFI Colorproof XF, vuodesta 2013 alkaen Fiery XF. EFI on suurten tulostusj\u00e4rjestelmien, RIP:ien ja v\u00e4rinhallintaratkaisujen, kuten vedostuksen, ratkaisutoimittaja.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">EFI<\/a> Fiery RIPS:n valmistaja ja Adobe PDF Print Engine (APPE) -ohjelman valmistaja ovat saaneet tiedot, tiedosto on todenn\u00e4k\u00f6isesti kopioitu muutamassa minuutissa Harlequin RIP:ll\u00e4. Adobe PDF Print Engine -ohjelmassa oleva virhe olisi siis my\u00f6s syy pitk\u00e4\u00e4n k\u00e4sittelyaikaan.<\/p>\n<p>Ongelma on tyypillinen. InDesignin ja Illustratorin kaltaisista luontiohjelmista tiedostoelementtien tasoittaminen X\/4:ll\u00e4 siirret\u00e4\u00e4n painotalon RIP-ohjelmaan tai vedostuksen valmistajalle.<\/p>\n<p>T\u00e4m\u00e4 tapaus laskettiin neliytimisess\u00e4 j\u00e4rjestelm\u00e4ss\u00e4, jossa oli SSD-levyj\u00e4 ja kaksi Adobe PDF Print Engine -ohjelmaa, ja tulostus kesti oikein kolme tuntia ja 47 minuuttia. Koska lopputuotteen kantta ei kuitenkaan todenn\u00e4k\u00f6isesti valmisteta Euroopassa vaan Aasiassa, p\u00e4\u00e4tettiin paikalliset painotekniikat huomioon ottaen laskea monimutkainen grafiikka l\u00e4pin\u00e4kyvyyksineen, varjostuksineen jne. Photoshopissa ja tulostaa ne sitten l\u00e4pin\u00e4kyvin\u00e4 PDF-tiedostoina. <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/psd\/\" target=\"_self\" title='PSD tarkoittaa Fogra &quot;ProcessStandard Digital&quot;, samoin kuin PSO tarkoittaa &quot;ProcessStandard Offset&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">PSD<\/a> tiedosto takaisin tiedostoj\u00e4rjestelm\u00e4\u00e4n. Tuloksena syntynyt PDF X\/3-tiedosto kopioitiin ja tarkistettiin muutamassa sekunnissa. V\u00e4ritulos oli sama kuin X4-tiedostossa.<\/p>\n<p>Esimerkki osoittaa: PDF X4 ei ole vain muuttunut tiedostomuoto. Se my\u00f6s siirt\u00e4\u00e4 laskentatehon ja ohjelmistot k\u00e4ytt\u00f6\u00f6n.<a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/lexicon-2\/ean\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"EAN = eurooppalainen tuotenumero. EAN korvattiin GTIN-numerolla = Global Trade Identification Number vuonna 2009.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ean<\/a>kysynt\u00e4 tietojen luojalta tietojen k\u00e4sittelij\u00e4lle tai tulostimelle. Erityisesti monimutkaisen grafiikan kohdalla t\u00e4m\u00e4 voi kuitenkin johtaa arvaamattomiin vaikutuksiin. Vaikka PDF X\/4 -yhteensopivia ratkaisuja, kuten Fiery XF 5.2, on t\u00e4ll\u00e4 v\u00e4lin olemassa, yli kolmen tunnin RIP-aika ei tietenk\u00e4\u00e4n ole k\u00e4yt\u00e4nn\u00f6llinen.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Saimme hiljattain sveitsil\u00e4iselt\u00e4 asiakkaalta PDF-tiedoston, joka meid\u00e4n piti tarkistaa ISOCoatedV2:n mukaisesti. Muoto oli luotu PDFX-4-muodossa, ja pystyimme avaamaan tiedoston, esivalmistamaan sen ja n\u00e4ytt\u00e4m\u00e4\u00e4n sen my\u00f6s Acrobatissa. Kun tiedosto kuitenkin proofattiin Fiery XF 5.2:ssa, se saatiin tulostettua vasta yli 3 tunnin RIP-ajan j\u00e4lkeen. Adobe PDF X4 -n\u00e4ytt\u00f6tulostus Acrobat Professionalissa Nauhoitimme n\u00e4yt\u00f6n asettelun nykyaikaisella Macbook Pro -tietokoneella, jossa on nelj\u00e4 prosessoriydint\u00e4 ja uusin Acrobat Pro -versio, osoittaaksemme laitteistolle asetetut valtavat vaatimukset ja siten ... <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"PDF X\/4 -tiedot - kuka laskee? InDesign vai RIP?\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/fi\/pdf-x4-tiedot-jotka-laskevat-suunnittelu-tai-rip-laskennan\/#more-887\" aria-label=\"Read more about PDF X\/4 Daten \u2013\u00a0wer rechnet? 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