{"id":371,"date":"2013-01-19T02:54:30","date_gmt":"2013-01-19T01:54:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=371"},"modified":"2020-05-08T12:01:25","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T10:01:25","slug":"layout-in-rgb-printing-in-cmyk-probleemid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/layout-in-rgb-printing-in-cmyk-probleemid\/","title":{"rendered":"Paigaldus RGB, printimine CMYK. Probleemid?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"371\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 votes)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"Layout in RGB, Druck in CMYK. 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Inimese v\u00e4rvin\u00e4gemine p\u00f5hineb nendel v\u00e4rvidel.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">RGB<\/a> on pigem reegel kui erand. Eelised on ilmsed:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\u00dclesehitus toimub suures, peaaegu meedianeutraalses <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/leksikon-4\/vaerviruum\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"V\u00e4rviruum p\u00f5hineb v\u00e4rvimudelil ja on selle konkreetne rakendus v\u00e4rvimismeetodile (printer, ekraan jne). Seega sisaldab see k\u00f5iki v\u00e4rve, mida saab selle meetodi ja vastavate materjalide abil tegelikult esitada.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">V\u00e4rviruum<\/a> selle asemel, et<\/li>\n<li>K\u00f5ik Photoshopi filtrid on saadaval ilma piiranguteta<\/li>\n<li>V\u00e4rviruumi konverteerimise protsess <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/leksikon-4\/cmyk\/\" target=\"_self\" title='CMYK t\u00e4histab nelja tr\u00fckiv\u00e4rvi: ts\u00fcaan, magenta, kollane (kollane) ja &quot;key&quot; (must v\u00f5i must osa).' class=\"encyclopedia\">CMYK<\/a> nihutatakse tootmisprotsessis v\u00f5imalikult hilisele ajale.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Praktikas on aga eelk\u00f5ige kaks v\u00f5imalikku probleemi.<\/p>\n<p>Probleem 1: CMYK konverteerimine viimases etapis.<br>\nKataloog on kujundatud InDesignis, k\u00f5ik andmed on t\u00e4iuslikud, viimase sammuna enne tr\u00fckkimist ja <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/leksikon-4\/toend\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Proof (korrektselt: lepinguline proof) on ISO 12647-7 sertifitseeritud proof-seade graafilise kunsti t\u00f6\u00f6stusele. Proof simuleerib offset- v\u00f5i s\u00fcgavtr\u00fckkimise v\u00e4rvilisust v\u00e4rviliselt ja \u00f5iguslikult siduvalt ISO-standardi kitsaste lubatud h\u00e4lvete piires.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Proof<\/a> J\u00e4rgmine samm on pildi eksportimine CMYK-v\u00e4rvides PDF-vormingusse. Tavaliselt toimub see InDesigni eelseadistuse abil, milles on t\u00e4psed spetsifikatsioonid v\u00e4rviruumi konverteerimiseks d<a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/leksikon-4\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Electronics For Imaging Inc., l\u00fchendatult EFI, on Ameerika ettev\u00f5te ja maailma \u00fche juhtiva proofing-s\u00fcsteemi tootja: EFI Colorproof XF, alates 2013. aastast Fiery XF. EFI on suurte tr\u00fckis\u00fcsteemide, RIPide ja v\u00e4rvihalduslahenduste, n\u00e4iteks proofimise lahenduste pakkuja.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">efi<\/a>niseeritud. Praktikas on seda v\u00e4rviruumi \u00fclekannet siiski raske j\u00e4lgida. Probleem: isegi kui te muudate n\u00e4iteks eksporditud PDF-failis v\u00e4rviv\u00e4\u00e4rtused Acr<a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/leksikon-4\/oba\/\" target=\"_self\" title='OBA on l\u00fchend s\u00f5nadest &quot;Optical Brightning Agents&quot; v\u00f5i &quot;Optical Brightners&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">oba<\/a>t, Acrobat ei n\u00e4ita teile tegelikult v\u00e4rve, mida see sisaldab. Isegi kui RGB-pildid on ikkagi ekslikult lisatud, n\u00e4itaks Acrobat kohusetundlikult CMYK-v\u00e4\u00e4rtusi. Tr\u00fckkimisel v\u00f5ivad aga andmete uuesti t\u00f6\u00f6tlemisel tekkida teised CMYK-v\u00e4\u00e4rtused. Hiljuti n\u00e4gi see v\u00e4lja nii:<!--more--><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Klient saadab v\u00e4idetavalt CMYK-andmed proofimiseks.<\/li>\n<li>1. andmete edastamine: enamik pilte on endiselt RGB-vormingus. Klient ei m\u00e4rganud seda nende l\u00e4bivaatamisel Acrobatis.<\/li>\n<li>2. andmete tarnimine: andmed CMYK-v\u00e4rvides, tr\u00fckitav ja proofitav, seega tehakse proof. Kuid andmed konverteeriti vale profiiliga, mist\u00f5ttu k\u00f5ik pildid olid kollased. Vale v\u00e4rviruumi konverteerimist m\u00e4rgati alles proofis.<\/li>\n<li>Andmete edastamine \u00f5ige. Andmed t\u00f5endis samuti korrektsed.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Teine probleem: edasine t\u00f6\u00f6tlemine tr\u00fckikojas<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Tr\u00fckikoda saab Corel Draw'ist kaardid, mis on kujundatud RGB-s\u00fcsteemis ja ekspordil konverteeritud CMYK-s\u00fcsteemiks.<\/li>\n<li>Fotograafi originaalpildid aastal <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/leksikon-4\/eci\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"ECI - Euroopa v\u00e4rvialgatus on ekspertide r\u00fchm, mis tegeleb v\u00e4rviliste andmete t\u00f6\u00f6tlemisega kirjastuss\u00fcsteemides.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">ECI<\/a>-RGB-V2<\/li>\n<li>Corel disainer, kes v\u00f5tab \u00fcle pilte fotograafi seatud <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/leksikon-4\/srgb\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"sRGB on k\u00f5ige laialdasemalt kasutatav RGB-v\u00e4rviruum. sRGB on k\u00f5ikide odavate digikaamerate ja skannerite standardv\u00e4rviruum. Peaaegu iga 8-bitine RGB-fail ilma profiilim\u00e4rgistuseta vastab sRGB-le.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">sRGB<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Eksport toimub CMYK PDF-formaadis. Kujundaja ei tea, kas tema Coreli vektorpindu RGB-mustaga on t\u00f6\u00f6deldud teisiti kui fotograafi poolt integreeritud RGB-pilte, mis maskeerivad nende vektorpindade mustuse v\u00e4lja kihimaskiga.<\/li>\n<li>Tagasiside tr\u00fckikojast p\u00e4rast andmete saamist: Mustas on liiga palju <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/leksikon-4\/vaervirakendus\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Tindi katvus tr\u00fckkimisel t\u00e4hendab tr\u00fckipinnale kantud tindi kogust. Seda nimetatakse ka tindikatteks v\u00f5i tindi tiheduseks. V\u00e4rvipind on tr\u00fckiprotsessis oluline parameeter, kuna see m\u00f5jutab v\u00e4rvide intensiivsust ja k\u00fcllastust. K\u00f5rge v\u00e4rvipindala v\u00f5ib p\u00f5hjustada intensiivsemaid v\u00e4rve ja suuremat k\u00fcllastust, kuid...\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Tindi pealekandmine<\/a>. Klient ja disainer on t\u00e4iesti ebakindlad. Sest loomulikult ei tea keegi, kuidas Corel CMYK-ks eksportimisel RGB-andmeid - v\u00f5imalik, et profileeritud v\u00f5i profileerimata - k\u00e4itleb.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>T\u00f5si k\u00fcll: CMYK-t\u00f6\u00f6protsessiga ei oleks selliseid probleeme kunagi tekkinud. CMYK on v\u00e4ikseim \u00fchine nimetaja agentuuri, fotograafi ja tr\u00fckikoja vahel. Sellegipoolest eelistan ma tulevikus RGB t\u00f6\u00f6voogu. Kui seda rakendatakse ja seadistatakse \u00f5igesti, annab see v\u00f5imaluse saada palju paremaid tr\u00fckitulemusi, sest CMYK-ks konverteerimine saab toimuda v\u00f5imalikult hilja. Kuid see t\u00e4hendab ka seda, et v\u00e4rvihalduse oskusteave peab olema protsessi etappides \"v\u00f5imalikult hilja\" olemas. Ja just siinkohal peavad paljud printerid lihtsalt m\u00f6\u00f6da minema. Sest enamik - isegi suuremad tr\u00fckikojad - l\u00e4htuvad p\u00f5him\u00f5ttest:<\/p>\n<p>&ldquo;Da kam mal einer, der hat das <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/leksikon-4\/ctp\/\" target=\"_self\" title='CTP-protsess on &quot;arvutist plaadile&quot; protsess, mille puhul tr\u00fckiplaadid valmistatakse otse CTP-pildistajas ilma filmide abita. See on kiirem ja t\u00e4psem, kuid ka kallim kui klassikaline CTF - &quot;computer-to-film&quot;.' class=\"encyclopedia\">CTP<\/a> paigaldatud. Kolme p\u00e4eva p\u00e4rast oli see kadunud ja sellest ajast peale on see t\u00f6\u00f6tanud. Paneme andmed ette ja kettad tulevad tagant v\u00e4lja. Mis on vahepeal? Ma ei tea. Miks?\"<\/p>\n<p>See juhtus hiljuti \u00fche kliendiga. Tr\u00fckikoja tagasiside oli, et s\u00fcgavmustaks h\u00e4gustuvate fotodega bro\u0161\u00fc\u00fcri tr\u00fckkimiseks tuleks pildid paigutada nii, et mustaks j\u00e4\u00e4ks 40\/0\/0\/100.<\/p>\n<p>T\u00f5si k\u00fcll: Seda, et s\u00fcgavmustanahaline v\u00f5ib olla CYANi seguga, \u00f5petati kindlasti 30 aastat tagasi kutsekoolis. Ja 40\/0\/0\/100 on ka must. Aga paluda fotograafil oma RGB-pilte selle musta v\u00e4\u00e4rtusega kohandada, ei ole t\u00f5esti abiks. Aga \u00fche kliendiga juhtus just nii. J\u00e4reldus: RGB on hea, aga see ei ole veel k\u00f5ikidesse printeritesse j\u00f5udnud. Printerid, kes suudavad m\u00f5elda kastist v\u00e4lja, on aga kindlasti juba teemaga tegelenud.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Eelk\u00f5ige suuremates ettev\u00f5tetes on RGB-kujundus n\u00fc\u00fcd pigem reegel kui erand. Eelised on ilmselged: k\u00fcljendus toimub suures, peaaegu meedias neutraalses v\u00e4rviruumis K\u00f5ik Photoshopi filtrid on piiranguteta k\u00e4ttesaadavad V\u00e4rviruumi CMYK-ks teisendamise protsess nihkub tootmisprotsessis v\u00f5imalikult hilisele ajale Praktikas on aga eelk\u00f5ige kaks v\u00f5imalikku probleemi. Probleem 1: CMYK konverteerimine viimases etapis. Kataloog on kujundatud InDesignis, k\u00f5ik andmed on t\u00e4iesti korrektsed, sest viimane samm enne ... <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"Paigaldus RGB, printimine CMYK. Probleemid?\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/et\/layout-in-rgb-printing-in-cmyk-probleemid\/#more-371\" aria-label=\"Read more about Layout in RGB, Druck in CMYK. 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