{"id":539,"date":"2013-08-27T16:15:39","date_gmt":"2013-08-27T14:15:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.proof.de\/?p=539"},"modified":"2020-05-08T13:30:24","modified_gmt":"2020-05-08T11:30:24","slug":"color-corrector-flyer-alarm-vs-flyerwire","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/es\/color-corrector-flyer-alarm-vs-flyerwire\/","title":{"rendered":"Reclamaci\u00f3n por color incorrecto: una comparaci\u00f3n aleatoria de Flyeralarm y Flyerwire en cuanto a la precisi\u00f3n del color"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kk-star-ratings kksr-auto kksr-align-right kksr-valign-top\" data-payload='{\"align\":\"right\",\"id\":\"539\",\"slug\":\"default\",\"valign\":\"top\",\"ignore\":\"\",\"reference\":\"auto\",\"class\":\"\",\"count\":\"0\",\"legendonly\":\"\",\"readonly\":\"\",\"score\":\"0\",\"starsonly\":\"\",\"best\":\"5\",\"gap\":\"5\",\"greet\":\"Jetzt bewerten\",\"legend\":\"0\\\/5 - (0 votes)\",\"size\":\"24\",\"title\":\"Reklamation wegen falscher Farbe: Ein zuf&auml;lliger Vergleich von Flyeralarm und Flyerwire in Sachen Farbverbindlichkeit\",\"width\":\"0\",\"_legend\":\"{score}\\\/{best} - ({count} {votes})\",\"font_factor\":\"1.25\"}'>\n            \n<div class=\"kksr-stars\">\n    \n<div class=\"kksr-stars-inactive\">\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"1\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"2\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"3\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"4\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" data-star=\"5\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n    \n<div class=\"kksr-stars-active\" style=\"width: 0px;\">\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n            <div class=\"kksr-star\" style=\"padding-right: 5px\">\n            \n\n<div class=\"kksr-icon\" style=\"width: 24px; height: 24px;\"><\/div>\n        <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<\/div>\n                \n\n<div class=\"kksr-legend\" style=\"font-size: 19.2px;\">\n            <span class=\"kksr-muted\">Valore ahora<\/span>\n    <\/div>\n    <\/div>\n<p>Recientemente, tenemos una tarjeta de visita en <a title=\"Flyerwire\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flyerwire.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Flyerwire<\/a> imprimir, porque aqu\u00ed, aunque por un poco m\u00e1s de dinero que, por ejemplo, con <a title=\"Flyeralarm\" href=\"https:\/\/www.flyeralarm.com\/de\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Flyeralarm<\/a> tambi\u00e9n recibir\u00edan -en nuestra opini\u00f3n- tarjetas de visita de mayor calidad. El resultado fue decepcionante por primera vez en muchos a\u00f1os: Los colores eran inferiores en comparaci\u00f3n con las <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/es\/lexico-4\/prueba\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Una prueba (correctamente: prueba de contrato) es un dispositivo de pruebas certificado por la norma ISO 12647-7 para la industria de las artes gr\u00e1ficas. Una prueba simula el colorido de la impresi\u00f3n offset o del huecograbado de una forma jur\u00eddicamente vinculante dentro de las estrechas tolerancias de la norma ISO.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">\u200ePrueba<\/a> claramente sobresaturada, el anverso y el reverso no son id\u00e9nticos pero s\u00ed muy diferentes. Sobre la base de la <a title=\"Libro DCS\" href=\"https:\/\/grafipress.de\/products\/dcs-book-cmyk-professional-edition?_pos=3&amp;_sid=5256666cb&amp;_ss=r\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Libros DCS<\/a> determinamos en una primera comparaci\u00f3n que sobre todo en la gama magenta se imprim\u00eda entre 90% y 100% magenta en lugar del 70% dado. El amarillo tambi\u00e9n parec\u00eda estar claramente sobresaturado.<\/p>\n<p>Tras una reclamaci\u00f3n, Flyerwire entreg\u00f3 la tarjeta por segunda vez 10 d\u00edas despu\u00e9s. Ahora mucho mejor, pero a\u00fan lejos de la prueba certificada. Especialmente la zona de color crema claro estaba claramente descolorida. Nos quejamos por segunda vez y -por puro inter\u00e9s- pedimos una tarjeta de visita a Flyeralarm con los mismos datos de impresi\u00f3n.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Mientras la tarjeta a\u00fan estaba en proceso de reclamaci\u00f3n en Flyerwire y esper\u00e1bamos los comentarios, Flyeralarm nos entreg\u00f3 la tarjeta impresa: Coincid\u00eda perfectamente con nuestra prueba en cuanto al color, pero desgraciadamente no era tan buena como la copia de Flyerwire en cuanto al aspecto y el tacto. Ahora Flyerwire tambi\u00e9n se puso en contacto por tel\u00e9fono: se alegraron mucho de nuestra queja (\"s\u00f3lo as\u00ed podemos entender y solucionar los problemas\") y enviamos a Flyerwire cuatro tarjetas de visita: Su primer lote, su segundo lote, nuestra prueba y la tarjeta impresa de Flyeralarm.<\/p>\n<p>Una fuerte semana despu\u00e9s, lleg\u00f3 la reimpresi\u00f3n de Flyerwire: Muy buena en color y absolutamente igual a la prueba y a la tarjeta de Flyerwire - y: h\u00e1pticamente simplemente en la calidad habitual de nuestras tarjetas Flyerwire. El cliente estaba contento.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conclusi\u00f3n<\/strong>Las imprentas en l\u00ednea est\u00e1n en una posici\u00f3n excelente para producir impresiones en los colores correctos seg\u00fan las normas del proceso, incluso en formatos y tiradas peque\u00f1as. <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/es\/lexico-4\/offset\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"La impresi\u00f3n offset es un proceso de impresi\u00f3n indirecta. Indirecto significa que la forma de impresi\u00f3n y el sustrato no entran en contacto directo, sino que se utiliza un soporte intermedio como medio de transferencia. Es el proceso de impresi\u00f3n m\u00e1s extendido. Existen: - prensas offset de pliegos y - prensas offset de bobina.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Impresi\u00f3n offset<\/a>DIN 12647-2. En nuestro caso concreto, la presencia de un <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/es\/lexico-4\/pruebas\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"En el sector de la impresi\u00f3n, las pruebas (o impresiones de prueba) se refieren a la simulaci\u00f3n encuadernada en color y legalmente vinculante de un resultado de impresi\u00f3n con fines de control. La norma responsable de las pruebas es la ISO 12647-7:2016, es decir, la revisi\u00f3n actual de 2016.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">Pruebas<\/a> nos ayud\u00f3 mucho en el proceso de reclamaci\u00f3n. Y despu\u00e9s de unos 20 d\u00edas y dos reclamaciones, tambi\u00e9n ten\u00edamos el producto solicitado en los colores pedidos en casa de nuestra imprenta deseada.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_544\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-544\" style=\"width: 574px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_9808_v2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-544\" src=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_9808_v2-739x1024.jpg\" alt=\"La imagen muestra cinco vistas de una tarjeta de visita: Flyerwire 1\u00aa impresi\u00f3n, Flyerwire 2\u00aa impresi\u00f3n, Flyerwire 3\u00aa impresi\u00f3n, Flyeralarm impresi\u00f3n, Prueba de shop.proof.de\" width=\"584\" height=\"809\" srcset=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_9808_v2-739x1024.jpg 739w, https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/08\/IMG_9808_v2-216x300.jpg 216w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\"><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-544\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">La foto de las tarjetas de visita de Flyerwire y Flyeralarm no es, por supuesto, vinculante en cuanto al color, pero sirve de referencia. <a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/es\/lexico-4\/led\/\" target=\"_self\" title='Un LED es un &quot;diodo emisor de luz&quot; y en la industria gr\u00e1fica representa la nueva luz &quot;LED&quot;, que ha sustituido a fuentes de luz m\u00e1s antiguas como los tubos de ne\u00f3n y las l\u00e1mparas de tungsteno. Los tubos de ne\u00f3n se conocen sobre todo por la gama de luz est\u00e1ndar D50 o D65, mientras que las fuentes de luz de tungsteno se utilizaban principalmente en dispositivos de medici\u00f3n del color como espectrofot\u00f3metros y color\u00edmetros.....' class=\"encyclopedia\">led<\/a>s\u00f3lo para la visualizaci\u00f3n.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Por nuestra experiencia con las reclamaciones de otras imprentas en l\u00ednea, el panorama es el mismo para nosotros: todas las reclamaciones se tramitaron siempre de forma relativamente r\u00e1pida, comprensiva y positiva. S\u00f3lo una vez con <a title=\"Imprimir24\" href=\"http:\/\/www.print24.de\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Imprimir24<\/a> nuestra solicitud fue rechazada, aunque la impresi\u00f3n seguramente no habr\u00eda cumplido en absoluto con las desviaciones de la ISO, pero d<a href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/es\/lexico-4\/efi\/\" target=\"_self\" title=\"Electronics For Imaging Inc., EFI para abreviar, es una empresa estadounidense y fabricante de uno de los principales sistemas de pruebas del mundo: EFI Colorproof XF, desde 2013: Fiery XF. EFI es un proveedor de soluciones para grandes sistemas de impresi\u00f3n, RIP y soluciones de gesti\u00f3n del color como las pruebas.\" class=\"encyclopedia\">efi<\/a>nitivo estaba fuera de toda tolerancia. Con un importe de pedido de m\u00e1s de 500 euros, esto era molesto, pero el cliente acept\u00f3 una reducci\u00f3n por nuestra parte. En todos los dem\u00e1s casos, las reclamaciones siempre prosperaron. Y con m\u00e1s de 1.000 trabajos de impresi\u00f3n s\u00f3lo en Flyeralarm, nuestro \u00edndice de reclamaciones es muy limitado, desde luego no m\u00e1s de un peque\u00f1o porcentaje del volumen total.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Vor kurzem haben wir eine Visitenkarte bei Flyerwire drucken lassen, da hier zwar f\u00fcr etwas mehr Geld als z.B. bei Flyeralarm auch &#8211; unserer Meinung nach &#8211; hochwertigere Visitenkarten geliefert w\u00fcrden. Das Ergebnis entt\u00e4uschte zum ersten Mal seit vielen Jahren: Die Farben waren im Vergleich zum Proof deutlich \u00fcbers\u00e4ttigt, Vorder- und R\u00fcckseite nicht identisch sondern sehr unterschiedlich. Anhand des DCS Books haben wir in einem ersten Vergleich ermittelt, da\u00df insbesondere im Magenta Bereich statt den vorgegebenen 70% zwischen 90% und 100% Magenta gedruckt wurden. Auch das Gelb schien deutlich \u00fcbers\u00e4ttigt. &#8230; <\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more-container\"><a title=\"Reclamaci\u00f3n por color incorrecto: una comparaci\u00f3n aleatoria de Flyeralarm y Flyerwire en cuanto a la precisi\u00f3n del color\" class=\"read-more button\" href=\"https:\/\/proof.proofen.de\/es\/color-corrector-flyer-alarm-vs-flyerwire\/#more-539\" aria-label=\"Read more about Reklamation wegen falscher Farbe: Ein zuf\u00e4lliger Vergleich von Flyeralarm und Flyerwire in Sachen Farbverbindlichkeit\">Leer m\u00e1s<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":544,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1,18,443,441,7],"tags":[21,114,113,116,519,115,117],"class_list":["post-539","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-allgemein","category-haufige-fragen","category-haeufige-fragen-zu-proofs","category-layout-tipps-und-tricks","category-proof-wissen","tag-farbverbindlich","tag-flyeralarm","tag-flyerwire","tag-print24","tag-proof","tag-reklamation","tag-visitenkarte","generate-columns","tablet-grid-50","mobile-grid-100","grid-parent","grid-50","no-featured-image-padding","resize-featured-image"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.0.1 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Wegen falscher Farben haben wir bei Flyerwire reklamiert, und aus Interesse parallel bei Flyeralarm drucken lassen. 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